[hardcore] greycat: Gods, I hate fighting scaling monsters.
[hardcore] ickeygooey: I'm glad I decided to go for a level 30 though.
[hardcore] ickeygooey: Gives me an excuse to participate.
[hardcore] bigevildan: There is more Crimbo coming.
[hardcore] greycat: The only sane way I can kill them in bulk is to use a dandy lion, a hamster, and LTS them.
[hardcore] greycat: There's no realistic way to just attack them to death.
[hardcore] DrEvi1: their level scales with moxie right?
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: i agree with Dr Evi1, a little too late
[hardcore] ickeygooey: But their HP scales with muscle.
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: i feel like im running in circles
[hardcore] Xaxor: 15 turns... what to do... already got my lucre, some "saved" some elves
[hardcore] DrEvi1: I think I would just rather farm fat stacks of cash to sell in the mall at this point
[hardcore] knosh: doesn't their atk scale to your mox, and their def to your musc?
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: plus saving crimbo makes you sacrifices content for nothing
[hardcore] greycat: Their ATTACK scales with your buffed moxie. Monsters don't actually have a "level" statistic.
[hardcore] greycat: They have attack, defense, initiative, and hit points.
[hardcore] DrEvi1: semantics
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: nothing scales to your mys?
[hardcore] DrEvi1: they have a level-esqu property that determines their base stat drops, which for all intents and purposes is their level
[hardcore] greycat: The property they possess which determines their stat output is their ATTACK.
[hardcore] SirNiko: Here is what we do: We kill the penguins, then take their place as the masters of Crimbo. We enslave the elves, then force them to build us dollhouses and dollhives for the rest of the year.
[hardcore] knosh looks forward to another greycat rant
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: i like that plan SirNiko
[hardcore] DrEvi1: Well I am not going to argue about which player assigned terminology is the most apt
[hardcore] greycat: It's not just terminology. It's been fully researched for a very long time.
[hardcore] greycat: Raising a monster's defense does not increase its stat output. Raising its attack DOES.
[hardcore] Xaxor: can you only get one goth-kid t-shirt in an ascension?
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: can i be the guy playing the drums to make the elves work at a certain speed?
[hardcore] DrEvi1: ok grey, not sure who pissed in your cornflakes this morning but you really don't need to talk down to me
[hardcore] ickeygooey: "Ramming speed!"
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: for some reason i thought greycat had just said catapults
MsNicole: Zombo's up
[hardcore] greycat: I don't recall mentioning catapults.
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: you should have, they are awesome
[hardcore] knosh: i want to launch a cat from a catapult
[hardcore] Grimilkin feels bad for the cat
[hardcore] DrEvi1: I do wonder why there are items that increase monster level though, obviously they should be renamed to increase monster attack
[hardcore] greycat: Items that increase monster level actually increase all 4 of the attributes I named earlier.
[hardcore] DrEvi1: I would wager that since TPTB have used the word "level" as the identifier it is more correct than labeling it attack, whether you put it in all caps or not
[hardcore] greycat: (Originally, they did not increase monster HP, but that was corrected years ago.)
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: items with prismatic damage should say "pristamic damage"
[hardcore] greycat: (The initiative increase was done with NS13, I believe.)
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: "level (of attack)"
[hardcore] DrEvi1: but they still use the label of level so I don't see how you can discredit its concept
[hardcore] ferNAndo BOno: i mean prismatic damage >_>
[hardcore] greycat: You know what? Fuck it. Screw this. I am TIRED of fighting. I am mentally exhausted by the the constant plague of ignorance. Go ahead. Talk about "monster level scales to your moxie"..
[hardcore] DrEvi1: I wonder what the sea helmet does on the hatrack
[hardcore] greycat: all day long. I'll levve ALL of you to blabber on in peace.
No longer listening to channel: hardcore
greycat: No longer listening to channel: hardcore
greycat joins the growling.
greycat: Holy fucking SHIT that channel has grown stupid. -hic-
InSinYou8: dude, I stopped listening to hardcore a week ago... and I feel MUCH better
DrEvi1 (private): I really don't get why the hell you feel like being so damn condescending to me when I am not ignorant of the game's mechanics.
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Zair: what was going on greycat?
greycat: Someone asked whether "monster level scales to your moxie", and I explained the difference between monster attack and defense, etc.
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greycat: DrEvi1 jumped all over me and called me "condescending" and so on, and insisted that "level" was a perfectly valid label for something or other.
greycat: I got sick of the bickering.
Zair: ..heh
InSinYou8: ha
Eleron (private): What happened with dr e / hc?