[hardcore] xephyne: So, jewish doctors in the US, simple as that.
[hardcore] greycat: It's not just Jewish doctors, either.
[hardcore] greycat: It has, really, nothing at all to do with Judaism here.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw has met Italian Jews before.
[hardcore] xephyne: In WWI, very few Christian Americans had the chop. In the post-WWII baby boom, it became almost ubiquitous.
[hardcore] Richthofen: "An earlier survey, conducted in 1992, found a circumcision prevalence of 77% in US-born men, born from 1932-1974,"
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: Lousy humour from Singapore: Why did the elephant choose to sit on an orange in front of a synagogue?
[hardcore] xephyne: And no, not *just* jewish doctors. Now.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: (this is actually a joke the Jews of Singapore actuually tell)
[hardcore] xephyne: It became an accepted medical norm, almost overnight after WWII.
[hardcore] xephyne: sit on an orange? Haven't heard that one... Punchline plz?
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: Don't worry, the Muslims being imported into America will keep up the numbers.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: xeph: "So he could see all the juice come out"
[hardcore] Richthofen doesn't believe that
[hardcore] xephyne: D'oh! What a strange pun. Surprised it would come from a non-English speaking place...
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: Richthofen: circumcision is also practised by the Muslim community, with removal of foreskins mandatory for both men and women.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: xephyne: er, Singapore is now a predominantly Engliosh-speaking place.
[hardcore] xephyne: Of course, women not having foreskins, makes it far more barbaric than the Jewish version... Let's stop mutilating babies, then we can talk "acceptance".
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: It comes to show just how rotten we are when it comes to humour and the arts.
[hardcore] xephyne: Really? I had the impression they had a very strong sense of cultural identity, including their language.
[hardcore] xephyne: Ah well, globalization.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: "mutilating babies"? are you pro-life xephyne?
[hardcore] xephyne: I mean circumcision, not abortion.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: xephyne: when you import a variety of poor landless immigrants, what part of their culture will they bring along?
[hardcore] greycat: "Circumcision" means something very different when applied to a girl than when applied to a boy. Please be more precise in describing which practice you mean.
[hardcore] aseigler: anti-circumcision
[hardcore] xephyne: As for pro-life... I think we have far too many humans on the planet. I don't just consider myself "pro-choice", I consider myself "pro-death".
[hardcore] xephyne: The more abortions (or better, just get "fixed"), the better.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: so you're shooting blanks xephyne?
[hardcore] xephyne: Not yet, but I *always* use BC
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: Uh, stop the talk about mutilating bodies. Can we discuss this, please? => [link] http:// www.guardian.co.uk/ lifeandstyle/ wordofmouth/2009/ nov/04/sausages-how- to-make
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw shifts from one foot to the other anxiously.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: so you preach getting fixed but haven't actually had it done?
[hardcore] Tom Sawyer Jr shifts the topic to the new Alice game coming out
[hardcore] xephyne: Wow, the low level sidequests just don't like me this run. Still no slug lord pants, and *just now* (at L5.5) got Doc Hobo's map.
[hardcore] greycat: Um, "run"? And you're pursuing slug pants and hobo maps?
[hardcore] greycat: Isn't that more of a "stroll"?
[hardcore] xephyne: Jade, I "preach" birth control, and have such a low opinion of my fellow humans that I don't consider most of them capable of using it successfully.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: Correction. the Retarded Nutty Gimp don't like ya.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: xephyne: have you heard of the catcheism "Save the planet, kill yourself"?
[hardcore] xephyne: Not pursuing, but they usually don't suck in the first day or two.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: you just said you think people should get fixed.
[hardcore] Ackyri: From "Lift Your Head Up High (And Blow Your Brains Out)"?
[hardcore] xephyne: Right, Jade... Because I don't think most people can successfully consistently use effective birth control. You can't screw it up, having a vasectomy. I have enough confidence in my *own* desire not to reproduce that I have no similar concerns as ...
[hardcore] xephyne: ... regards my (lack of a) reproductive future.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: but birth control can fail.
[hardcore] greycat: "I don't think most people can do X, but I'm special." -hic-
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw hopes to reproduce, so his kids can grow up and enslave the rest of you.
[hardcore] Ackyri: Um, hey guys! In some happier news...
[hardcore] Ackyri: You're entitled to the "Gourdcore" Trophy, for completing (in its entirety) the Gourd Quest while in Hardcore mode.
[hardcore] xephyne: Exactly, greycat.
[hardcore] greycat: I don't have a high regard for people who put themselves in a special category above others. That means you, xeph.
[hardcore] xephyne: Oh, I *don't* put myself "above" others. Just that most people eventually break down and *want* to reproduce. I know myself well enough to know that will *not* happen.
[hardcore] greycat: If you know you will never, ever want to have kids, then just go get a permanent contraception operation.
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: xephyne: and what if someone manages to recreate a ghola of you?
[hardcore] xephyne: Not to mention that the people we *most* want not to reproduce seem to have the least success with using birth control, but no doubt you'll take that as the pinnacle of elitism as well...
[hardcore] xephyne: Heh, in that case, Robur, make me a few from which I can harvest organs while still alive. ;)
[hardcore] greycat: Yes, George Bush has reproduced. Both George Bushes. This is a tragedy, but....
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: If only they voted Jeb Bush instead.
[hardcore] xephyne: Greycat, do you *enjoy* going in for minor surgery?
[hardcore] greycat: You're contradicting yourself and really failing to make any valid arguments to defend your position.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: so you're being a hypocrite because you're afraid of a 10 minute cut job?
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw snickers at his new-found cold-blooded weapon.
[hardcore] greycat: You claim people should not reproduce. You claim traditional contraception is not reliable. You claim you NEVER will want to reproduce. You claim people who don't want to reproduce
[hardcore] greycat: should get surgery done. Yet you don't have it done.
[hardcore] xephyne: Hmm, d'you suppose I meant it not necessarily as a purely serious proposition? Yes, I'd love to see it happen, but you seem to have taken it as more than a casual aside.
[hardcore] xephyne: Again - I don't like surgery. Do you?
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw casts a cold Stuffed Mortar Shell on xephyne to knock some sense into him.
[hardcore] greycat: That's enough troll chow for you. Go on, have fun tormenting children or whatever.
[hardcore] JADE Dragon piece: if I was really bent on not having kids, I'd rather have the surgery than have to worry abotu birth control. -hic-
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: greycat, chill it. It's just a chatroom.
[hardcore] xephyne: Not trolling, I made a casual aside and HC decided to run with it.
[hardcore] ShaKaan torments greycat.
[hardcore] greycat: That, RIGHT THERE, is what is seriously broken with the Internet.
[hardcore] greycat: "It's just the Internet. I don't have to be serious or true or moral or ethical or consistent."
[hardcore] Robur Velvetclaw: greycat: and that is why my uni mistrusted internet-based references.
[hardcore] xephyne: Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd say the same thing IRL.
[hardcore] greycat: Apparently I've stumbled into the Evil /Hardcore this morning. Go on, have fun fucking around with each other. I'm leaving NOW. -hic-
No longer listening to channel: hardcore